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Portia Tigana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:49:00 -
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While I understand the prizes won't be given out until the end of the contest, will we be notified early if our entries fail to pass muster?
I'm pretty sure my entry meets all the criteria but I'd hate to find out after the contest was over that I missed some minor detail. Especially given the amount of time available to retake shots.
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Portia Tigana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.31 07:11:00 -
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I've scanned down and entered at least 100 worm holes and haven't found a Wolf-Rayet Star. Am I just unlucky or am I missing something? This is the last photo I need and I'm getting very frustrated.
The rest was fun, this is a grind. |
Portia Tigana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.31 17:41:00 -
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I had thought that the sun type would be Wolf-Rayet, my mistake. Went on a 10 hop jaunt during lunch and found a wormhole that had one in it.
On the positive side, I'm really good at scanning down sites now.  |
Portia Tigana
Unexpected Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:15:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Folks, I am afraid there will be a slight delay in the prize distribution! Still planned before the end of the week though - apologies for the inconvenience. Take your time, there's no rush. I'm sure it's a lot of work double checking all those pictures. Now correct me if I'm wrong. Total amount of submissions per Tier : Week 1 = 749 Week 2 = 237 Week 3 = 148 Total amount of submissions = 1124 19 images per submission. Total amount of images = 21356 Definitely gonna take some time to verify all those images. DMC
I assumed they would have done all the checking before they announced the grand prize winner or that contest wasn't valid. What they probably have left to do is manually add the entitlements (or whatever they call them there) to each account. |
Portia Tigana
Unexpected Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:07:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: For the Grand Prize Winner, all CCP had to do was just pull one name and verify the images associated with that name. If those images weren't valid, they could easily pull another name. Wouldn't take very long at all to verify the Grand Prize Winner.
Now for all the other images submitted, that's quite a lot to check. Anyway, I think everyone who submitted images should get a prize.
DMC
The number of entries we got in the grand prize contest was directly related to valid image sets. If they just tossed everyone in without verifying the validity of the entries, those of us who did all three sets had our chances of winning lowered. I trust they would not have done this and would have put the entries in (10/25/50) based on successfully completing each set.
I have been fortunate enough to have been able to look behind the scenes at several MMO companies enough times to know they are probably just swamped with the manual process of adding the items to each account. |
Portia Tigana
Unexpected Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.12 14:38:00 -
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Rangh Ovaert wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:But I should have... Sorry folks, due to a little snag yesterday we're going to have to wait for early next week for this (as it can't go out today and I am out of the office tomorrow). We can wait until Winter Expansion, no problem. But then you will have to give us something else from SoE instead of Virtue Alpha  Would have been nice to get the stuff at the first deadline when my characters was ca. 7 weeks old ...now I can afford to buy the stuff if I wanted to. None the less the whole matter slowly leaves a bitter aftertaste.
This is disappointing, to say the least. At this point, unless someone from CCP posts otherwise, I'm going to assume that the entries weren't verified before the grand prize was announced and that drawing was invalid.
The thrill of doing the contest has faded, all I'm left with is a vague feeling that I got scammed. |
Portia Tigana
Unexpected Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.12 15:30:00 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:
Now to be fair, the only thing we got "scammed" out of is our time. And this only if CCP doesn't get this ongoing delay sorted out.
Your assumption about the grand prize is stupid, by the way. The drawing would be invalid if CCP had drawn a winner and then not verified his pictures, but they have and so it is.
The rest is irrelevant: Either they have verified all pictures before drawing the grand price, which means they have sorted out a couple of poor schmucks with invalid pictures, or they haven't. In which case nothing would have changed, a few unlucky fellows wouldn't have changed much about our chance of winning and if they had been drawn, they would have been discarded and there would have been another draw.
Actually, I think we maybe even would have had better chances at winning with unverified pictures: More invalid contestants means less chance of winning, but on the of off-chance of someone getting drawn with invalid pictures, another draw would have happened, thus doubling our winning chance. Or multiplying, if this would have happened several times in a row.
Just my two cents.
I know it's just my time, I said it was a vague feeling.
As for the validity of the drawing, I know the odds don't change much with invalid entries but I'll go through the extreme example to show how the odds are lessened, not improved.
Assume Alice, Bob and Mallory all participated. Alice did all three rounds and they were valid. Bob submitted entries for all three rounds but only the first round was valid. Mallory only submitted the first round entry and it was valid.
If the entries were not verified before the drawing, Alice and Bob each get 85 entries into the final drawing, Mallory gets 10. Alice's chance of winning is 85/180 or .47%. Bob's is the same. Mallory's is 5.55%. If the entries are verified before the drawing, Alice and Mallory still have the same number of entries but Bob's are reduced to 10. So Alice now has a 85/105 chance of winning or 80%. Bob and Mallory each now have a 10% chance of winning.
With invalid entries allowed, everyone's chance of winning is lowered.
And what happens in the first scenario if Bob's name was drawn? He does in fact have a valid entry. If all they did was check the first entry to see that it was valid and stop, he wins with artificially inflated odds.
That's the extreme scenario and I don't know how many entries are actually invalid but I do know it's non-zero. But again, in the end, the odds only change by very small fractions of a percent per invalid entry but they do change and not in our favor. |
Portia Tigana
Unexpected Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.13 21:23:00 -
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Removing invalid entries if that person is drawn does not change the fact that the other entries had a lower chance to be drawn. In my scenario, if Mallory was drawn first, game over, she wins. Yet Alice had her chance reduced greatly, from 80% to 47%. No one would even know this until some time much later after all the entries were verified.
Invalid entries inflate the total entry pool, lowering the chance for the valid entries to win. Basic simple math. Repeatedly drawing names, pruning the bad entries and hoping to get a valid set of entries doesn't change that. |
Portia Tigana
Unexpected Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.14 19:09:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:
I will absolutely say that the entries were verified before the drawing of the grand prize and subsequent announcement (I also posted to this effect on Twitter prior to the announcement).
Thanks for this post. My faith in CCP has been restored.
Sorry for the drama, sometimes the mind invents monsters out of the shadows in the dark.
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